Comments on: Alarmism from The Economist? http://www.petercooper.co.uk/alarmism-from-the-economist-23.html Tue, 06 Jan 2009 01:13:16 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.5 by: peter http://www.petercooper.co.uk/alarmism-from-the-economist-23.html#comment-84 Sat, 23 Dec 2006 11:56:05 +0000 http://www.petercooper.co.uk/alarmism-from-the-economist-23.html#comment-84 Hey, thanks for that! Creepy! Luckily it looks like the back benches are ready to protest. BTW, I understand you might be referring to 'a government' as the British government as a whole.. but if we're just talking about Labour, then the "allowed presumptions of guilt to flow from silence" dates from 1994, although I personally have no problem with it. I don't think it's designed to allow you to incriminate yourself, but to provide further evidence of your innocence. And ASBOs.. even if they've been implemented poorly, they do have a pretty good intention. Most of the behavior they're used upon should be illegal.. the people getting slapped with ASBOs tend to be menaces to society. The money laundering crap does piss me off though.. :) Hey, thanks for that! Creepy! Luckily it looks like the back benches are ready to protest.

BTW, I understand you might be referring to ‘a government’ as the British government as a whole.. but if we’re just talking about Labour, then the “allowed presumptions of guilt to flow from silence” dates from 1994, although I personally have no problem with it. I don’t think it’s designed to allow you to incriminate yourself, but to provide further evidence of your innocence. And ASBOs.. even if they’ve been implemented poorly, they do have a pretty good intention. Most of the behavior they’re used upon should be illegal.. the people getting slapped with ASBOs tend to be menaces to society. The money laundering crap does piss me off though.. :)

]]> by: bob http://www.petercooper.co.uk/alarmism-from-the-economist-23.html#comment-83 Sat, 23 Dec 2006 10:21:21 +0000 http://www.petercooper.co.uk/alarmism-from-the-economist-23.html#comment-83 how about http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6157736.stm How is this in any way unlikely, from a government who has introduced double jeopardy, restricted trial by jury, started jailing people for non-illegal, nuisance behaviour (ASBO's), allowed presumptions of guilt to flow from silence ("if you do not reveal something you later rely on in court..."), forced financial institutions to assume all members of the public are guilty (money laundering regulations) etc? "What about magna carta? did she die for nothing?" how about

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6157736.stm

How is this in any way unlikely, from a government who has introduced double jeopardy, restricted trial by jury, started jailing people for non-illegal, nuisance behaviour (ASBO’s), allowed presumptions of guilt to flow from silence (”if you do not reveal something you later rely on in court…”), forced financial institutions to assume all members of the public are guilty (money laundering regulations) etc?

“What about magna carta? did she die for nothing?”

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